MMI AE-2 Class Index
Instructor: Eddie
Ciletti
FINAL PROJECT REVIEWS
Class
Facebook Page: Communication is THE secret to success!
FINAL PUNCH LIST: Due on the last day of class
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Review this page for the Final Exam. Emphasis will primarily
be on the recording work we've done in Studio B. I figure the comp
test has more than enough SSL stuff.
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Redbook CD with your CREEP and GENERAL mixes (hopefully pre-approved
so I can help you do your best.)
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be sure to look at you final mix files before you burn them to CD.
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Final e-mail must include:
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Listening to and Evaluating the Acoustic Guitar and Piano Micing sessions.
If you have already done so, just cut and paste. Please listen on
decent monitors or headphones or both. Remember the 'best' sounding
track won't always fit in the track.
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overview of your editing challenges and accomplishments
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Final e-mail may include
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highlights of what you learned
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critique of the class
Quick link to each week...
Basic Rules, Requests, Requirements:
I believe in hands-on teaching by doing. I hope you will agree
that this is more fun, especially at 8AM, than me lecturing or you memorizing
details without having the equipment and a project in front of you.
I have stated in class - and on line - that he have the POTENTIAL
to record on even weeks. Based on class consensus and ability, that's
SEVEN possible opportunites to cover different genres that will require
specific drum and instrument mic-ing techniques and plenty of experimentation..
Why the emphasis on POTENTIAL? Because I also ask that everyone
start their assignments well in advance of the weekend, even if only enough
to explore the assignment and ask questions if something is not clear (or
not working). So far that concept has not become embedded into habit.
Keep in mind that recording bands is 'my idea,' as-in, there is nothing
in the syllabus that implies that we'd be recording more than just one
instrument at a time. We can do it that way if you want, but
I feel very strongly that ensemble performance and recording is the better
way. PLUS, I like the sound of the space as it leaks into various
microphones.
If you feel that my approach is not working, then let me know ASAP.
So, the deal is simply this...
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Do you like the idea of recording a live band in class and then
mixing that session as a homework assignment?
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Do you think this approach might be the better way to learn mic technique,
Pro Tools operation, and all of the mixing tricks - Compression, Limiting,
EQ and automation?
If yes, then our 'covenant' is...
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To start your 'homework' as soon after class as possible...
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know where on the web to go to stay on track, keep in touch and map
out our time together.
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know that you can ask me any question, at any time, and I will reply
within the day if not within hours
TRANSLATION: PLEASE DO NOT wait until Sunday to find out that stuff
doesn't work.
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email every week
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stay in touch on our facebook
page: HINT, there's lot's of planning involved
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Always check out the index below for updates about what we did and where
we are going.
About the Reading and Video Assignments:
Please know that I do not expect 100% absorption from reading and
vdeo assignments. I do expect you to absorb what you can and ask
questions.
eddie
WEEK
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Description of what we did
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QUIZ
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LINKS
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1
Intro
Studio
Teaser
6th Feb
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Introduction, Listen to 45s,
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Basic Acoustics (Diffusion, Absorption, Reflection),
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Bass
Management for all Formats (Equal Loudness Curve, Proximity, Low Frequency
chellenges
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Record a Drum Kit.
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Eddie's
Dynamics
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2
Studio
13th Feb
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Snow's
Mics
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PT
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3
Tech
20th Feb
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Quizes on the following topics:
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Snow's
Drum
Mic-ing
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4
Computer
Lab
27th feb
Click
and
admire
the detail...
Michelangelo's
"David"
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May Contain one or more of the following:
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Don't You Worry Bout a Thing
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I Want You Back
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Lowdown
Everyone:
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learn how to listen in mono (this will be a future class exercise)
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should clean the head and tail of your mix before submitting
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unless specifically requested, please do not submit session files (but
please do keep a copy of them)
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check mix level after 'bouncing to disk.'
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normalize the mix IF intended as a 'single'
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make sure your stereo mix (wav or aiff) is INTERLEAVED, not dual mono
<<< Whether chiseling a statue or mixing, don't chisel
too deep, too fast!
In this order...
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LISTEN to everything
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Check drum polarity (and phase)
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EQ / Filter the most egregious offenders (too bright, too muddy)
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Avoid individual dynamis processing
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Get a static balance of the key parts, mute the non-critical parts
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submix key elements - Drums, Bass, Ambience - Vocals, Instruments.
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Houskeeping Automation first! It's a dreary job, but
the rest of the mix process goes easier when you get all the 'junk' out
of the way.
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balance the key elements with Automation
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When possible, always start the mix as simply as possible - add extra tracks
as the song progresses - introducing new parts in each new verse or chorus.
The first verse should have the least amount of parts necessary to keep
the track together.
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introduce the non-critical parts
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OVERS on individual tracks implies plug-in abuse on that channel.
Individual Tips...
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Darius: Your mix starts out with more hiss than mix. Automation
first. (Guessing you had alotta compression on certain tracks.) Lotta
verb dude!
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Michael: Your mix level was too hot - TONS of overs.
Be sure to look and the mix bounce.
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Haley: Intro Guitar is too loud and stays too loud. (I know
you had other problems that kept you from spenindg more time on this)
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Jarrell: Good starting balance!
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Jesse: Panning decisions are an artistic choice, so I will mostly
suggest that you choose to either go for the contrast or balance your choices.
Otherwise the balance is a good place to start automating.
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Lucas: Your mix is very well balanced. The only issue initially
is that I hear the low end from kick in the Room / Ambinece track.
The first out of place in your mix is the hours. Automate them and
work from there.
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Snow's
Drum
'tuning'
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PT
stuff
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5
Tech
5th March
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Week-5's class will work like this - and hey, it really
did!
Spend a few moments talking about Tom Tucker, who I have had the pleasure
of knowing for seven-plus years. If you have a Tuck story, please share.
Tom set a great example as a human being - he was warm to all, embracing,
supportive and loyal. Tom treated people like family and in this business,
THAT is saying something. Tom was way more than a great recording and mix
engineer, but he set a standard. His mixes are a pleasure and a joy to
listen to.
Great CLASS!!!
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Talk about mixing priorities
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Separate into two groups, do the respective exploration and then swap groups
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JOSH will do protools hardware tour and hit that punch list
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EDDIE will do signal flow
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Convene in Studio B and learn more about the SSL
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AFTER we cover SSL basics, we'll try mixing in the analog domain (see links
below)
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Prep for next week's recording session.
MIXING REMINDERS and TIPS
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Lead vocals and Solos 'generally' are placed in the center (no hard fast
rules)
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Whatever is in the 'Lead Position,' make room for it by lowring other tracks
rather than pushing it up 'as much.'
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Notice how the strings really needed to be in the verb only and how we
could have ridden them a little bit? It's easy to get used to them
being in, but it's better to purposefully manipulate dynamics so they are
'behind the mix' adding dimension rather than having them too 'close.'
We want to try to hide the fact that they are fake strings...
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Taking the time to process as if mastering often brings up mix disparities
that are better resolved by tweaking the mix rather than rely on processing
to be 'the fix.'
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Snow's
SSL
Patch Bay
Tube
vs
Solid-State
Mic Preamps
Gain-Based FX
(Dynamics
Time-Based FX
mic
placement
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6
Studio
12th March
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RECORDING DAY
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Creep
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Jimmy, Justin, jack and Jarett
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Recoring Engineer: Ashley, Lucas and Haley
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Assistant Engineers:
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in-Studio Engineers:
Below will be my step-by-step progress. I started with drum and bass
polarity, basic signal processing and editing / automating the tom tracks
so they're only on when played.
In working with what I had, I chose FX that helped hide the vocal flaws.
I also felt the clean guitar was too naked so I turned it into a texture,
relying more on the piano for notes..
This would be a good song to learn auto tune on.
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Snow's
Guitar
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SSL
Channel Strip
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7
Tech
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Quiz Fest
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SSL patch bay and operation
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MID-SIDE
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Stomp box BYPASS
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DI
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Session Planning
HOW TO MIX
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reference a known good mix, one that is not highly processed but which
has a 'good spectral balance'
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talent
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performance
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test recording: listen to each individual trrack to make sure it will be
use-able
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apres record, check drum polarity
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housekeeping: which is essentially throwing away the mistakes and noises
via mutes
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reference a known good mix, one that is not highly processed but which
has a 'good spectral balance'
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static mix balance - finding a place where the mix 'works'
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EQ only the most eggregiously wrong tracks (too bright, too dark, too bass
heavy)
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automate before using dynamics plug-ins
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Before uploading - sharing - e-mailing your mix, be sure to look at
the waveform. Some of you have unacceptable distortion.
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8
Studio
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Mid Term Notes:
As mentioned, from the CREEP mixes I have learned alot and plan on focusing
our remaining classes on improving your skillset. Be prepared to
mix EVERY week from now to week-15.
EVERYONE should look at their mix before sending.
I currently have mixes from:
Ashley Brastad-1
- who is obviously the pianist (and has recut the piano). In version-1,
there is an obvious level discrepency between Ashley's OD and the track
- this is normal when you focus so much time on an overdub that it is hard
to re-adjust your perspective - and the piano - into the new part's rightful
place in the mix. Ashley's mix otherwise pretty good.
Ashley
Version-2 - here the piano is more balanced in the mix but what
goves it away is the warmth that most like was the sound of the piano sample
she chose. For it to fit better in the mix, either a different
sample or some combo of high pass filter and low frequency shelf roll-off
would help tremendously. Ashley's V-2 made her an honorary member
of the 48khz club.
Darius
Bush (who needs to undo all that compression). I can't emphasize
enough that you should mix / Automate first and then - like sculptor
- carefully and tastefully add processing to achieve a 'better' mix - one
that can stand up to being trashed.
Devin
Hays - who like Jarett Toomey was in the back-to-mono camp
but who was paying attention when I pointed out the problem and rectified
it!
Drew
- likes bass and compression alot (monitoring issues?) and loves to bury
the vocal. I can't tell if the cool alien effect on the vox is intentional
(I like it and can almost tell it's Jack's vocal) or an mp3 artifact.
Haley
Scoops Peterson: (48kHz club) This is a good 'foundation
mix,' it seems to have minimal to no processing. The vocal
is a bit forward and dry, pulling it back would help the drums be punchier.
Jimmy
Kruchten: (48kHz club) like many of you, needs to learn how to
mute (bad piano parts) and automate. In a way, this mix is the next
logical progression from Haley's mix. Jimmy copped my cool vocal
effect, which I take as a compliment.
Jack Maddy
- needs to LOOK at his mix file before 'shipping out,' some combo of not
listening loud enough, pushing the mix too hard and the need to better
understand both compression and limiting. Without a limiter, then
a faster attack time on his buss compressor would have helped.
Jack Maddy-2:
This
version is much improved from Jack's firs tsubmission. At about 8dB down
from full scale, there's no distortion - yay! - and while it needs to be
mixed, I think once the ODs are put in their place, the drum submix sounds
pretty good.
Jarret'soriginal
mix was single channel mono, which he fixed and reposted. His vocal
take is even more sarcastic than Jack's and occassionally has timing errors.
Jarret also needs to take advantage of being able to easily mute the piano
mistakes. Asside from the crunch guitar being a little too bright,
the rest of the track seems balanced - my guess is that there is vocal
automation.
- who like many of you needs to learn how to mute (bad piano
parts) and automate.
Justin
Hays:
Submitted his mix so early it got buried in the FB 'timeline!'
But now that it's here... Justin's version is too hot, two limited
and not really mixed. If there was a foundation, the limiting trashed
it and the vocal is too loud.
Lucas
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who learned how to bounce out only take two! This mix has two identical
channels, not sure if it was intentional or got turned into mono.
The mix is somewhere between haley's and Jimmy's.
Michaeland
Jack make a great team - Jack's vocal and piano work really well and so
nice to hear without the distortion! The drum-bass-guitar submix
is over compressed (my guess), while the vocal and piano seem to float
over it. The lack of dynamics holds the song back emotionally, but
in some ways the combo of ODs balances out the mix flaws.
Brody Maves
makes 11, (and who finally - after grades were in - set Soundcloud's permission
to download). Brody's mixed on crappy speakers, should have also
used headphones, relied entirely too much on compression and completely
ignored our very first class lesson about The Equal loudness Curve, Proximity
Effect, how speakers lie - and / or are severely challenged to reproduce
low frequencies in an acoustic space. That said, spending a little
time on automation and not adding tons of low end to the bass woudl have
helped.
need mixes from:
Jesse Kalkbrenner (12)
S Kim Vang (13)
Justin Hays (14)
MID-TERM GRADES generally fall into three categories...
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90: great participation (in and out of class), feedback, grasp of
concepts, listening skills, good questions.
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80: not pushing hard enough but has potential
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70: not trying - or not organized - or did not submit the minimum
required work or communications. I need to find out how to motivate
and students need to learn how to communicate so I can help.
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9
Tech
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The second half of the semester will go very fast. We're recording
in B to get more SSL experience and to learn more about mic choice and
placment.
Recorded THE GENERAL in B to get more drum and SSL experience.
Headphone and File Saving issues...
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10
Studio
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CUE SYSTEM troubleshooting plus BEAT DETECTIVE
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11
Tech
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This could easily be a Beat Detective day, tho ODs are possible
if everyone's done their homework...
GENERAL MIXES
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Mike O'Conner:
This sounds like a simple rough mix.
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Eddie
Ciletti: Manually edited drums prepped for BD. Some basic mix
tweaks to tighten up the snare, tweak drum polarity, EQ guitar and bass.
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Snow's
Mid-Side
Mic-ing
Acoustic
Guitar
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Organ
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12
Studio
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SSL Competency
Ross Harvey was kind enough to create three SSL PDFs for us...
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13
Tech
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OD's: SSL Competency, Acoustic Guitar ODs plus BD / editing
assistance
Please note that I had Jimmy sing to help reveal rejection (when ya
need it).
Eddie's Dead Beat Tips for Brain Dead Beat Detective
1 - Print the click to a track
1a Place the instruments about the visual click
1b Place the three key drum tracks below the visual click
1c Now, no matter how zoomed out, the click is always easy to
see.
1d You will ALWAYS have to learn where instruments must be placed
for proper feel.
2 - Be sure to group all drum tracks (and ref vox) so that you
are always editing the entire kit
3 - Manually edit first (because BD is not an intelligent life
form)
4 - Listen to and edit the other instruments to the grid and
/ or visual click.
5 - Beat Detective should only be applied AFTER you are satisfied
with the edits and the feel
6 - If BD pleased you, then it's time to apply the edit cross-fades
CLICK on the image below for a high resolution image
Click on graphic to get higher resolution image
Ever wonder where ProTools keeps your preset settings?
Of course you can save them wherever, but on my PC, this is where...
\Program Files\Common Files\Digidesign\DAE\Plug-In Settings
General Snare fix: Assuming the drums were edited as
a group...
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Reverse top snare polarity (relative to the 451 drum OHs)
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Buss top and bottom snare to stereo aux track
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insert ML-4000
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adjust top and bottom snare balance
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burn the new snare track so you can 'enjoy' it even if you don't own an
ML-4000 plug.
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ML-4000 preset
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Snow's
Piano
mic-ing
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Headphone
Mix
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14
Studio
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Meanwhile, during SSL Competancy, Ashley was practicing the
piano part for CREEP, but when we were ready to record, she had gone, so
Jimmy filled in. Below are three samples from three pairs of mics
in three locations as shown below. These are .wav files and maynot
play directly in your browser. Right click and save them. You
can open in most media players or import into PT, Logic, etc.
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Snow's
Beat Detective Guide
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15
Tech
EXAMS
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Sample Final Exam
Answers to Final Exam
corrected answers to final exam
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Q-1: The poorly worded question asks what the compressor does TO
a track - it reduces dynamic range by increasing low level signals and
reducing high level signals. the answer as given describes compressor parameters...
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Q-18:more tone? point mic toward head
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Q-19: more stick? point mic toward center
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Q-22: you do realize how ready I was to record a leslie, right?
I had the leslie and my acoustic on the day we did GENERAL drums and bass.
That said, TWO mics on the leslie because the horn is spinning, the mic
are on two sides essentially at right angles.
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VIDEO FOR Q-22
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Q-27: the answer to this question is what should have made THE GENERAL
easier to edit. You group ALL of the drums (and the ref vox, in our case)
so that drum polarity and phase is maintained. it is also easier. Your
job is to edit using the kick and snare hits because they are typically
on 1/3 and 2/4.
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Bonus Q: How many people printed the click and of those, how much
easier did it make the editing job?
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Bonus Q: What Acoustic Guitar mic technique did Eddie use in his
General mix?
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Q-34: Stereo returns, may be labeled, 2-track, CD, DAT, stereo-1,
Stereo-2, etc. (any stereo thing but not multitrack)
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Q-37: re-amping is generally applied to instrument recorded direct
so they can be routed out of the box and into an amplifier to optimize
the tone. Quite often, multiple amps might be used - individually or all
at once.
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FINAL PROJECT REVIEWS
STUDENT
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REVIEW
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IMAGE
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CREEP
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GENERAL
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Drew Appel
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Darius Bush
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Ashley Brastad
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Devin Hays
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Justin Hayes
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Jesse Kalkbrener
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Jimmy Krutchen
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Mike O'connor
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Heley Peterson
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Lucas Schneider
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Jarett Toomey
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Kim Vang
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EDDIE-LOG: What Eddie Learned This Semester
Teachers learn stuff, it's true! And sometimes teachers
feel overwhelmed just like you do.
I learned that nearly EVERYONE in our class has struggled with on or
more of the following:
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Too much info to absorb (same for me when I came to MMI, lots of new things
to learn about how their system works.
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Waiting till sunday night to do the work or email me (I couldn't be of
much help by then, though I was often up till 1am or 2am prepping for class
myself). I get up at 4:30 for Monday's class.
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Not having PT at home
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Not taking / having time to do class work outside of class
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Not listening to a mix on enough different systems. Notice I didn't
say 'not having decent monitors.' Remember our first class?
Remeber the articles I posted about loudness, loudspeakers and monitoring
environment shortcomings. Remember walking around the control room
to hear HOLES?
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Being tired and not particularly interactive on a Monday morning.
I did my best to get psyched for the class, despite any lack of sleep.
But I agree that an 8am class on a Monday is whacked. That said,
maybe it was chosen because that's when peeps could squeeze it in?
I've encouraged you to update your mixes every week to improve fluency
of the ENTIRE process. Even more important, doing the weekly exercise
should have generated lots of 'how to' questions, in class or via email.
If I post a mix it's not to boast, it is to say 'this is an option.'
If you like it, you can ask me how to get there, if you wanna go in another
direction, we can explore that.
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